Gavros 1:31 Fri Feb 5
Europe's 'big clubs' want to ringfence Champions League places
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Sorry if already done but not seen this on here and is significant with the likes of us and Leicester stirring things up at the top of the league:
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2612040-uefa-respond-to-champions-league-plan-reportedly-eyed-by-manchester-united-more
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Eggbert Nobacon
1:36 Fri Feb 5
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disgrace if this happens
should be a mass boycott of it if they try
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Mike Oxsaw
1:37 Fri Feb 5
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I think this surfaces every time there's a possibility of a team the sponsors think could be a liability entering the competition.
We might just be able to get away with it, but how the fuck do you market the likes of Leicester City to the non-English speaking masses around the world?
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Gavros
1:40 Fri Feb 5
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Go to Thailand. Leicester are massive over there now.
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El Scorchio
1:41 Fri Feb 5
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They should just get on with it and form their super league.
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Lily Hammer
4:19 Fri Feb 5
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The very idea makes me angry, but Shirley, my dear, this can't happen.
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Darby_
4:23 Fri Feb 5
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Pathetic, but football is a money-making venture and the big clubs make the most money, so it's probably not a surprise.
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Mike Oxsaw
4:24 Fri Feb 5
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Gavros 1:40 Fri Feb 5
Really? OK. Wait while I count the number of people wearing Leicester City tops around town...
...None - They're THAT fucking big.
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ludo21
4:47 Fri Feb 5
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You would be embarrased to be associated with this.
Chelsea (in particular) but also Man U and Liverpool are in danger of getting left behind. Chelsea for example look very likely to fail to get into the ECL and probably the EL as well... they will have some 'stars' looking to leave as a result and they will find it difficult to recruit the top level players needed to replace them.
A new manager will be a risk and will not guarantee them anything.... hopefully they will revert back to mid table obscurity and Abromovic will get bored and piss off! Shame.... expect them to dangle some cash in UEFAs direction to try and by-pass the system.
Should be deducted points and fined millions if any underhand dealings are uncovered (whether they are technically legal or not).... fucking foreigners.
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Takashi Miike
4:49 Fri Feb 5
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that's what it's all about, protectionism. fucking cunts don't want a level playing field and will do anything to protect their interests
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whufcroe
5:02 Fri Feb 5
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"and is significant with the likes of us"
Not really significant as it will never happen and it's simply a couple of bored hack from the Sun with fuck all else to do but make shit up.
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Pub Bigot
5:56 Fri Feb 5
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whufcroe 5:02 Fri Feb 5
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Is it made up though? Unlikely to happen now, but with some of the bigger European clubs in decline as well, this protectionism of their interests is likely to force a European Super League which has been spoken about for over a decade.
The fallen giants for example are Rangers, Celtic, Ajax, Milan, Juve, Liverpool etc...
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COOL HAND LUKE
5:57 Fri Feb 5
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I doubt that it is just paper talk.
I wouldn't be AT ALL surprised to see the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea being up for this sort of change... the fact (FACT) is that we now have a developing situation in the PL whereby it is no longer "4 or 5 continuously qualifying clubs, and 14 or 15 'cannon fodder' clubs underneath them". The margins between clubs are much tighter now, and you have 4 or 5, including WHU, that are really starting to make tracks.
What Slav said was true... that once every club has a decent starting eleven and a decent bench, the playing field levels out. It's taken most of this season for those 'big' clubs (and their arse licking media whores) to realise what is transpiring... and they do not like it much...
Let's be honest, the fear factor has already gone as far as Man Utd, Liverpool and Chelsea are concerned. You still need a good day and a following wind to tip City and Arsenal over, but it doesn't take much to see the writing on the wall.
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Northern Sold
5:58 Fri Feb 5
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MODER EUROPEAN FOOTBALL IS SHIT
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whufcroe
6:02 Fri Feb 5
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Pub Bigot 5:56 Fri Feb 5
A European super league has been talked about for as long as I can remember and will never happen.
The PL has just signed a £8.1 billion TV deal because the PL is what people want to watch.
The viewing figures for the group stages of the CL are shit and fans don't want to see Man Utd playing a European side every week and as far as the Europa League goes they are shutting part of a stand.
It's all basically hot air
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Fivetide
6:05 Fri Feb 5
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Sod 'em.
Most of the time when I was younger, Chelsea only warranted a half size badge and a team shot in yer Panini sticker album. Man City for a few years too. Strangely there weren't too many 'fans' of theirs on Essex recreation grounds in those days...
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Pub Bigot
6:06 Fri Feb 5
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That TV deal is for three years isn't it? So while our league and others are popular, I agree the status quo will remain. If it is ever in decline, that's when either the Scottish duo will be invited down, or a new league system will be sort.
The Premier League is all I've ever know. When it was formed, what was the justification for adding another league above the football league?
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whufcroe
6:18 Fri Feb 5
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Pub Bigot 6:06 Fri Feb 5
It was a breakaway by the "big 5" clubs from the FL as the running was amateur and with the backing of the FA they believed they could get better TV deals and split the money between the 20 clubs instead of the whole league
They were right.
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,
6:19 Fri Feb 5
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The next thing will be Premiership without relegation . And the owners will want the right to sel the franchise and move on too.
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Fivetide
6:22 Fri Feb 5
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Pile of crap though, isn't it really?
Divisions One to Four, worked just fine for fans
It's just marketing, branding, monetising balls. Literally.
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Sniper
6:44 Fri Feb 5
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They'll be more desperate now because of not being allowed to make massive losses
Chelsea and Man U surely won't be blue to just buy their way back into the champions league, regardless of their spending power, due to FFP and also the limits on loss making, which will be harder to avoid without champions legume income.
Though quite how Man U have spent the money they have in the last 2 seasons be brought in the players they have without breaching either of these is beyond me - unless wellbeck, di Maria and Hernandez were on 200k a week each, their incoming wages seem to massively outweigh what they got shot of
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